David Myatt Final Disclaimer And Archive

Important Notice: With the finality of this blog, I leave here an archive of the post 2012-2013 writings & translations of David Myatt. Such writings have not been rejected like most of his previous effusions and can still serve as a valid influence to lead us toward love and away from extremism.

I reject and disown all my pre-2011 writings and effusions, with the exception of my Greek translations, the poetry included in the published collection One Exquisite Silence (ISBN 978-1484179932), some private letters written between 2002 and 2011, and those few items about my since much revised ‘numinous way’ which are included in post-2012 publications such as The Numinous Way of Pathei-Mathos (ISBN978-1484096642).

My rejection of all forms of extremism is outlined in (i) the 2013 compilation Understanding and Rejecting Extremism (ISBN 978-1484854266) and (ii) Myngath (ISBN 978-1484110744).

My weltanschauung – the result of my own pathei-mathos – is outlined in texts such as (i) the aforementioned The Numinous Way of Pathei-Mathos; (ii) Religion, Empathy, and Pathei-Mathos (ISBN 978-1484097984), and (iii) One Vagabond In Exile From The Gods: Some Personal and Metaphysical Musings (ISBN 978-1502396105)

The development of my ‘numinous way’ into the ‘philosophy of pathei-mathos’ is outlined in the 2012 essay The Development of The Numinous Way.

-David Myatt


Points of Consideration

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Important Notice(s):  The ensemble of my philosophy was always very Myattian in essence. It was also heavily inspired by analytical philosophers such as Wittgenstein & Nelson Goodman along with several other mystics I had the opportunity to meet over the years but what changed me the most on a personal level was the post 2012 writings & poetry of David Myatt. Whether Myatt is or isn’t Anton Long is irrelevant to what the Order of Nine Angles has or doesn’t have to offer to a practitioner. Such a knowledge would only be a matter of form, not of essence because what truly matters deep down is what each individuals find for themselves. Thus, it will not be surprising that those fallible points that I live by are greatly similar to what is described in the Philosophy of Pathei Mathos. I am always reluctant to structure my life in written ‘points’ because it implies a certain limitedness and it is easy to commit logical fallacies but I felt like I had to write this, considering the recent events. You can read the Press Release of David Myatt here:


1-I reject all Political Forms as Abstractions and thus consider myself Apolitical. My very own Pathei-Mathos and journey has led me to believe that the solution is not political and that politics are meant to create a “Separation of Otherness” which in turn, causes unnecessary sufferings.

2- I reject all Religious Forms as Abstractions and thus consider myself a Seeker and nothing more. My very own Pathei-Mathos and journey has led me to study many aspects of Religion(s) but it is my belief that they do not adequately presence the Numinous and often corrupt more than they reveal.

3- I reject all Ideologies as Abstractions and thus consider myself without Aeonic Ideals. My very own Pathei-Mathos and journey has led me to study the Philosophy of Language at University which – along with the Post 2012 writings of David Myatt – led me to certain personal conclusions about the nature human language and our propensity for manufacturing abstractions. None of such abstractions ever allow us to understand reality or the cosmos in a satisfactory fashion.

4- The preferred mode of existence that I seek and try to manifest for myself is very comparable to the Rounwytha Way presented in the Order of Nine Angles. That is, a peaceful rural life in “propria persona”, surrounded by family, loved ones and nature where simplicity and aural traditions prevail.

5- Somnium Scipionis by Cicero revealed to me that – The dreams of grandeur(s) that men entertain are vain and selfish attempts at placing themselves above others. I hold no such desires and I hope that my legacy is remembered only by my loved ones before I return to the earth. I thus reject abstractions such as Vindex, the Galactic Imperium & the Code of Kindred Honour which creates a Separation of Otherness and posit certain individuals as superior compared to others.

6- Nothing of what I have attempted to bring about, share, inspire or transmit to others is new. It has all been discovered, discussed and pontificated about thousands of years ago. I am thus not original, special, superior or different in any regards. I was simply inspired by the ideas and attempts of others, primarily David Myatt which tragic journey opened my eyes to what is truly important in life.

7- No one should be judged according to an abstractive measure. Everyone should be judged and wordlessly known in the immediacy of the moment. Such a knowing is provided by temperance and empathy and reveals who is motivated honorably and who isn’t. While not perfect, such a knowing is still far superior to the generalization and separation of otherness that Politics & Religions provide.

8- Wu-Wei should be observed in all things. One should know when it is time to heal and when it is time to cull. Such a knowing is provided by discipline and empathy and should be applied in every spheres of our existence. It is required in all things: Taking care of a garden, of a sick animal, of a toxic relationship (…)

9- The pillars of existence and the most important elements of life are as follow in no particular order: Love, Loyalty, Honor, Temperance, Compassion, Family, Friends and Empathy (…) Do not let any abstractions convince you otherwise and do not let the words limit your wordless understanding of such things. The words do not matter; it is what they imply that does.

10- I firmly believe that one can go explore the deepest corners of hell if it means harvesting a better understanding of who they are. Howerver, that quest should never ever trample the right of others to get to know themselves at their own pace and how they see fit.

11- Men are fallible beings that are still somewhat ignorant of the meaningless role that they play in the grandeur of the Cosmos. In the light of such a consideration, I take myself with very little seriousness and seek only to become better and inspire others to attempt to do the same thing via multiple different mediums: Occultism, Meditation, Martial Arts, Creativity, Spirituality (…)

12- The Order of Nine Angles is an abstraction like any other. It is a causal form that changes, evolves and adapts depending on how you internalize it. It can produce mystical individuals or terrible individuals like any other abstraction. What makes it special and interesting is that it is “self-aware” of its abstractive nature and it is filled with traps (Labyrinthos Mythologicus). One such trap for example is the false dichotomy Sinister-Numinous which still prevails in the heart of most practitioners. Causal forms are meant to serves as tools for a time and then be transcended. The two individuals who went the furthest on the path are both living in reclusion now, focusing on love and family, disinterested completely by abstractions of any sort.

13- There is no secret to access or extract out of what the human mind can produce. Only illusions and false world versions that corrupt the essence of things which empathy can somewhat tap into. The most beautiful things are inaccessible by words and can only be felt and experienced in a volatile fashion.

14- The Occult & Spirituality as a whole is often dependent on abstractions to fuel itself such as our natural inclination to name certain seasons after gods and goddesses for example. The Rounwytha Way is interesting because it offers a wordless alternative that is still appreciative of the acausal powers that seems to rule and influence us. Occultism & Spirituality can be practiced and developed in many different avenues that do not require the intervention of abstractions and language. That is precisely part of the process itself. The practitioner will and should come to certain conclusions about the nature of reality and what is and is not necessary over the course of his journey.

15- Respect others, for their species of time is different than yours. Do not seek to forcibly show or share something with someone that is not receptive. There are enough information’s in a lifetime for someone to come to their own conclusions.


The Supra-personal


 Empathy and pathei-mathos, however, wordlessly – sans denotatum, sans abstractions, sans a dialectic of contradictory opposites – uncover physis: our physis, that of other mortals, that of other living beings, and that of Being/Reality itself. Which physis, howsoever presenced – in ourselves, in other living beings, in Being – is fluxive, a balance between the being that it now is, that it was, and that it has the inherent (the acausal) quality to be.

This uncovering, such a revealing, is of a knowing beyond ipseity and thus beyond the separation-of-otherness which denotatum, abstractions, and a dialectic of opposites manufacture and presence. A knowing of ourselves as an affective connexion to other living beings and to Being itself, with Being revealed as fluxive (as a meson – μέσον  – with the potentiality to change, to develope) and thus which (i) is not – as in the theology of revealed religions such as Christianity and Islam – a God who is Eternal, Unchanging, Omnipotent, and (ii) is affected or can be affected (in terms of physis) by what we do or do not do.

This awareness, this knowing, of such an affective connexion – our past, our current, our potentiality, to adversely affect, to have adversely affected, to cause, to having caused, suffering or harm to other living beings – also inclines us or can incline us toward benignity and humility, and thus incline us to live in a non-suffering causing way, appreciate of our thousands of years old culture of pathei-mathos.

-David Myatt, Physis & Being, an Introduction to the Philosophy of Pathei Mathos.

My thoughts have been occupied lately by what should be the driving purposes of a being and if there should be any, apart from the ones outlined in the ‘Philosophy of Pathei Mathos’ which, interestingly, are not activities but rather, a collection of virtues to embrace.

The Supra-personal is – like many in the philosophy of pathei-mathos & the Order of Nine Angles – a concept against concepts. What I mean by that is that it tends to outline why certain human creations (abstractions, categories, labels, isms), are detrimental to our existence and our experience of life. The entire analytical philosophy does just that since it outlines the limitations of language to further show the weaknesses of philosophy as an activity of the mind rather than a direct ladder to some sort of truth.

Since abstractions, categories, ideologies & concepts have an obvious influence on how we live, anything supra-personal is by default related to the activities it depends upon. A good example of this would be a fervent political Marxist. The ideology he follows requires him to live according to a specific set of rules or beliefs which will in turn, lead him to act and participate a certain way in society.

What is offered by the Philosophy of pathei mathos (Numinous Way) & ultimately, the Order of Nine Angles after years of experiences, is a detachment from abstractions & fallacious opposites. This in turn, leads the practitioner to abandon certain activities since the illusionary barriers have been shattered. For example, the separation of otherness becomes so apparent to anyone involved in politics that the entire spectrum of activities associated to politics becomes much less appealing.

David Myatt’s philosophy is fascinating because it is an invitation towards humility, simplicity, dignity, fairness, kindness, empathy, compassion and silence. It is the end of ways, the end of any form of activities that could be harmful to other beings, be they human or animal in nature. It is about balance (Wu-Wei) and about not upsetting the cosmic fluxion and unity that permeates everything.

Interestingly, after many years of studies and practical experiences, the physis of my being changed drastically and I realized that all these things I used to cherish were empty of any importance: A Nietzschean world-view, the dualistic nature of good & evil, the desire for an absolute ideology that I could espouse for my entire life, the appeal of certain political parties, the desire for a solely sinister approach to spirituality (…)

The beautiful, mystical and ultimately tragic journey of David Myatt resonated so much with what I was inwardly discovering through my esoteric practices and my studies. Finally, after a long while, something simply changed and altered itself forever. Rituals became less and less frequent, meditation was pushed aside for months and the time wasted studying vain ideologies and conceptual avenues was spent instead living moments of immense beauty with friends, family and the love of my life. I became aware that the time you spend convincing yourself how life should be, how society should be, how spirituality should be, you simply fail to be ‘there’. You are somewhere else, inside yourself, hoping you could change everything and exchange it all for YOUR very own and personal limited perspective. Most people act upon these thoughts which invariably results in the separation of otherness, the upsetting of the natural fluxion and the lack of empathy so prevalent nowadays.

I humbly think that the ultimate conclusion one can ascend to in regard to their physis, their spiritual journey, is that we are microscopic beings in an infinite universe and we are hopelessly unaware of the mechanisms of creation or the meaning of existence. We are fallible beings with a very limited set of tools that barely allow us to function in a causal realm we understand very little about. We should stop taking ourselves so seriously, stop fantasizing that there is a superior motive to our existence and stop ‘building’ conceptual castles filled with abstractions to entertain ourselves through this oh so short life that we are gifted with.

Nothing is more spiritual, nothing is more valuable and nothing is more ritualistic than a life lived in conscience of Wu-Wei, surrounded by loved ones, without a second wasted in the labyrinths of the mind.

Love, Compassion, Tolerance, Fairness, Honor, Kindness, Empathy, Friendship…

Yes, they are concepts but the heart knows about them much better than the mind does. For the mind can only understand them by applying them to a paradigm and human paradigms do not work when it comes to the wordless because they are dependant on language to be grasped somewhat efficiently by the mind. Love is not love as it is defined by a dictionary, it is something beyond us that we attempted to describe as best as we could with our very limited means of perception and communication. Definitions do not make you a better person, what you do in accordance to what you feel in the immediacy of the moment does. You can choose to be emphatical, even if you do not really understand how empathy functions. You can choose to abandon yourself entirely to this mysterious and powerful process that we call ‘love’ even if you do not know what it truly is. It does not make it any less Magical.

In my admittedly fallible view, one of our many human problems – one of the great problems of our modern ways of life – is that there is too much noise, especially the noise of and from words, spoken, read and thought. Far far too many words spoken; far too much speaking, too little silent, interior, reflexion, especially among the natural peace of Nature where we can sense and know again in our stillness the acausal Time of the Cosmos.

For wisdom is not to be found in speeches, in political or social manifestos, tracts or books; nor in some political, religious, or social, theory or dogma. And especially not in some abstraction, some ideal.

Rather, wisdom is there to be discovered, within ourselves; others can only gently point or guide us toward this self-discovery, toward the necessary interior, quiet, reflexion – perhaps through some work of Art, or some sublime piece of music, some poignant literature; perhaps some poem; or perhaps by some noble deed done or some selfless personal love that needs no words to speak or advertise its wordless name.

-David Myatt, The Love That Needs No Words.

-Beldam, 2019


Another Ripple

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The creation of this ‘online journal’ was and always has been, a personal journey which was decided would be shared so that perhaps my exploration(s) could benefit others. Not only have I discovered much, I know that it did impact positively many others who stepped out of the shadows and befriended me, inspiring me with their own very unique ἄνοδος…

The priority of this journal, beyond authenticity and self-discovery has always been about reminding myself and others about the limits and dangers of language, about the dangers of abstractions and how hubris is and always has been, the main problem when it comes to humanity. It is also about the strikingly beautiful “Numinous Way” or “The way of Pathei Mathos” of David Myatt which I consider to be the state closest to the culmination of any spiritual path (Lapis Philosophicus).

My researches led me to make several things collide together in unity, perhaps naturally or as part of an artificial aspect of my very own ἄνοδος/Weltanschauung. Vivid examples of this could be the connection between the Numinous Way and the Rounwytha Way, about the apolitical wordlessness of the Numinous Way and how Lapis Philosophicus lies beyond denotatum, about how certain concepts which are part of the Order of Nine Angles are part of the Labyrinthos Mythologicus according to certain hints present in certain MSS. Finally, about how a plethora of MSS seems to lead the authentic practitioner toward ancient texts which in the end, delivers a conclusion terrifyingly similar to the Numinous Way of David Myatt about the dangers of Hubris…

Beyond such personal conclusions, I have found what I needed to find and delivered myself from certain chains which I know, will haunt (knowingly or unknowingly) some others for the rest of their life. I am humbly in peace in the multitudinous and will continue to strive fearlessly, with an indomitable resolution but at the same time, in complete serenity. The time has come for me to embrace what I like to call my ‘synthesis’ and to bask in the magnificent experience that we call ‘life’, always with the many teachings of the wise-ones, whispered in my ears. David Myatt words, through Pathei-Mathos, became clearer with time and still do. A continual source of temperance and of equilibrium.

” Living according to Way of Pathei-Mathos is simple and means:

  • being compassionate or inclining toward compassion by trying to avoid causing, or contributing, to suffering;
  • being honourable – fair, reasonable, well-mannered, just, dignified, balanced;
  • appreciating the value and importance of personal love;
  • inclining toward a personal humility;
  • cultivating wu-wei.

1/ Being compassionate:  The separation-of-otherness is a term used in an attempt to describe how our normal perception of ourselves as a singular, a separate, individual is incorrect, an error which empathy can correct.

Empathy involves a translocation of ourselves and thus a knowing-of another living-being as that living-being is, without presumptions and sans all ideations, all projections. In a simple way, empathy involves a numinous sympathy with another living-being; a becoming – for a causal moment or moments – of that other-being, so that we know, can feel, can understand, the suffering or the joy of that living-being. In such moments, there is no distinction made between them and us – there is only the flow of life; only the presencing and the ultimate unity of Life itself.

2/ Being Honourable: My understanding of honour thus came to be as expressed, in The Philosophy of The Numen, as an ethical means to aid the cessation of suffering and thus as “a practical manifestation of empathy: of how we can relate to other people, and other life, in an empathic and compassionate way” [3]. That is, as a means whereby we as individuals can manifest a well-balanced, a fair, a noble, personal judgement, and thus how both ἀρετή and Δίκα can be presenced in those communities, those societies, we belong to or establish. The Philosophy of The Numen is, therefore, and perhaps more correctly, the philosophy of πάθει μάθος – where the numinosity of authority of or deriving from πάθει μάθος is given precedence over the ways of doctrine, religious faith, and the ideation of causal, un-numinous, abstractions

3/ Mutual love:A shared, mutual, love between two human beings is regarded as the most beautiful, the most numinous, the most human virtue of all.

4/ Personal humility:For me personally, humility is also an acknowledgement of a particular and important intuition regarding the self, regarding our perception of ourselves. Of how – when as individuals via pathei-mathos or otherwise we experience and then appreciate the numinous – we are not (as we often like to believe) in control of our lives, but instead are subject to supra-personal forces that have often, in the past as now, been variously termed or described as God, the gods, Fate, karma, Allah, wyrd, the cosmic perspective, the acausal, destiny, Μοῖραι τρίμορφοι μνήμονές τ᾽ Ἐρινύες, and so on. Of how such a belief of personally being in control, or of being capable of so being in control, of our lives, is mere egoism at best and, at worst, hubris; an egoism and a hubris that, whether we know or not – and mostly we with our egoism and our hubris do not know – are both the genesis of suffering and the raison d’etat behind our perpetuation of suffering.

5/ Cultivating Wu-wei: Wu-wei is a Taoist term used in The Way of Pathei-Mathos to refer to a personal ‘letting-be’ deriving from a feeling, a knowing, that an essential part of wisdom is cultivation of an interior personal balance and which cultivation requires acceptance that one must work with, or employ, things according to their nature, their φύσις, for to do otherwise is incorrect, and inclines us toward, or is, being excessive – that is, toward the error, the unbalance, that is hubris, an error often manifest in personal arrogance, excessive personal pride, and insolence – that is, a disrespect for the numinous.

In practice, the knowledge, the understanding, the intuition, the insight that is wu-wei is a knowledge, an understanding, that can be acquired from empathy, πάθει μάθος, and by a knowing of and an appreciation of the numinous. This knowledge and understanding is of wholeness, and that life, things/beings, change, flow, exist, in certain natural ways which we human beings cannot change however hard we might try; that such a hardness of human trying, a belief in such hardness, is unwise, un-natural, upsets the natural balance and can cause misfortune/suffering for us and/or for others, now or in the future. Thus success lies in discovering the inner nature (the physis) of things/beings/ourselves and gently, naturally, slowly, working with this inner nature, not striving against it.”

-David Myatt, Synopsis of The Way of Pathei-Mathos & The Culture of ἀρετή 

To appreciate more deeply those teachings, it is indeed important to understand the fallibility of language which is now and always has been, the inhibitor of hubris. David Myatt, in a more recent article also pointed this out:

“Of the many metaphysical things I have pondered upon in the last five or so years, one is the enigma of words. More specifically, of how nomen – a name, a term, a designation – can not only apparently bring-into-being abstractions (and their categories) but also prescribe both our thinking and our actions, with such abstractions and such prescription so often being used by us, we mortals, to persuade, to entreat, to manipulate, to control, not only ourselves but through us others of our human kind. Whence how denotatum can and so often does distance, distract, us from the essence – the physis – that empathy and its wordless (acausal) knowing can reveal and has for certain mortals so often in past millennia revealed.
For we seem somehow addicted to talk, to chatter – spoken and written – just as we assume, we believe, so often on the basis of nomina that we expand our pretension of knowing beyond the local horizon of a very personal wordless empathy breeding thus, encouraging thus, such hubris as has so marked our species for perhaps five thousand years. With such hubris – such certitude of knowing – being the genesis of such suffering as we have so often inflicted on others and, sometimes, even upon ourselves.
Would that we could, as a sentient species, dispense with nomen, nomina, and thus communicate with others – and with ourselves – empathically and thus acquire the habit of acausal wordless knowing. There would then be no need for the politics of propaganda and the rhetoric of persuasion; no need – no ability – to lie or pretend to others. For we would be known – wordlessly revealed – for who and what we really are. And what a different world that would be where no lie, no deception, would work and where guilt could never be concealed.”

-David Myatt, Perhaps words are the problem

What became most evident for me over time is that there is no forcing such a perspective. It has to bloom just like a flower bloom’s after a long and tedious struggle through darkness, through growth. One day burned by the rays of the sun and the other, stirred by the winds and the rain. It is, like thousand others to come, a realization which changes you entirely…

Evidently, since there can and should be no forcing it unto others and since I am unable to give-in to abstractions, there is a now very healthy abstinence from my part. I am unable and uninterested to surround myself with individuals who thrive off abstractions and I am even less interested in ‘arguing’ with people who defend a category or a mixture of categories (abstraction feeding). I am also not interested in positing the Numinous Way as the ‘ultimate way’ as this would be foolish and imbalanced on many regards. On the contrary, the Numinous Way is, on many levels, the end of ways and the beginning of what it means to ‘Be’. People who insist on the necessity of being: Divine, Evil, Sinister, Numinous, Ubermensch, Religious, Liberal, Conservative, Satanist, Luciferian, Christian (…) Those individuals are manufacturing and positing as absolutes certain abstractions which in the end, always have the same result; They cause a little bit or a lot of sufferings. The universe will never be able to be contained in a human box.

In the hope that others will continue to be inspired by the Numinous Way, by my researches on language and by a wordless apprehension of the cosmos, I decided to leave this wordpress available even though I will not be posting anymore, at least, not ‘here’.

Again, as stated many times, everything written here is written with a certain degree of conviction, inspired by a simple and insignificant yet wyrdful pathei mathos. But above all, it is written with complete humility. I do not claim to have achieved something unique or to possess knowledge that others do not have. I am nothing, if a temporary and joyful earthly emanation. I wish to thank David Myatt for being a perpetual inspiration and to all others whom I have crossed path with and will continue to be inspired by. May your life be a wyrdful ritual.

“Thus it is that I find, through and because of such a recalling, that what I value now, what I feel and sense is most important, is a direct, personal, mutual love between two human beings – and that such love is far far more important, more real, more human, than any abstraction, than any idealism, than any so-called duty, than any dogma, than any cause, however “idealistic”; more important – far more important – than any ideology, than any and all -isms and -ologies be such -isms and such -ologies understood conventionally as political, or religious or social. For it is the desire to love, to be loved – and the desire to cease to cause suffering – which are important, which should be our priority, and which are the true measure of our own humanity.”

-David Myatt, A learning from Physis.

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

T.s. Eliot

-Beldam, 128 yf